But again, I would think people on both sides of this would have issues with her. Leslie Van Houten, 19, pleaded innocent to the murder of Mr. and Mrs. Leno LaBianca. Sorry. Then I put it together with Irving Kanarek bringing June Emmers down to testify as to what a liar Linda was and some of the other things the defence exposed about her and despite Robert's point about the guy that spent 30 years inside because his lawyer never had his gun checked to see whether the bullets matched, I find it extremely difficult to believe that she was going to lie about the licence, especially as it was so easy to check on it and it would have severely dented her credibility. What does that refer to ? Manson Blog Shines Light on Sassy Bottoms! Manson Blog Locates and Interviews Son of Clyda Dulaney! She answered the follow up question and confirmed her understanding of the arrival time. But what happened before and after that. The more I've listened to people that were around and active in that period, the more I've watched and read, the more I can see that there was a wind blowing that caught many in it's slipstream and so many young people with similar upbringings had similar feelings and ended up in many different directions, some exciting and 'positive,' some not.Even some men that fought in Vietnam committed atrocities that they would never have perpetrated elsewhere or in any other situation; neither were there any clues in their upbringings as to some of these things happening. At the age of sixteen, she married but it ended in a divorce. The argument was not made at the Manson et al trial. Groups like the Revolutionary Youth Movement- Weather Underground and precursors to the SLA like those in the Revolutionary Union who support the strategy of urban warfare espoused by people like H Bruce Franklin and the leadership of Venceramos (sp?) He also said that what was needed was corroboration and that it didn't really matter who ended up as the star witness.It's true that he had little to no case against Leslie at that point, but Diane Lake changed that forever. Lots of Hippies were thought of as people that stole, didn't work, openly espoused drugs, were anti authority and anti establishment, sponged, dropped children all over the place and exposed their kids to things no child should even be aware of. var part3 = "GW at Mansonblog dot com"; I care what holes there are in her testimony and where those holes actually leadI can dig that. But that's a subjective judgement. She married, divorced, remarried, and gave birth to a daughter in 1968. Kasabian had only been a member of the Family for six weeks when the Tate murders took place. Aside from what she wrote, in her 1978 parole hearing she stated "so that at the time that even that I was on the witness stand and gave all my testimony, at that time of my testimony, I was expecting any day really for the world to come to an end at that point on the witness stand. No one else remembers when Frykowski was shot but Tex says he did it on the porch. Linda on the other hand, understood it on a level but it hadn't taken a major grip on her consciousness. I would say roughly around midnight. Not so much today. I love Bill Kurtis, just the way he would say "body" (somewhere between body and buddy, so I can imagine his pronunciation of Linda's last name would be intriguing. "Charlie entered into my headand Tanya was there and I was afraid for her life," Mrs. Kasabian said. They had a second child together, and Robert Kasabian left for South America. If Kanarek had handled this properly they never would have heard it. About the license, it had to be expired. I do agree that some things are unclear even prior to Sebring being shot {such as exactly when the women were told that murder was on the agenda that night and how long they had to process this info}. 'show the blacks how its done' + (3.) She chose to be the way she wasAround the age of 14, I chose to be the way I am and have been doing so ever since. Besides the motives of Manson's passion for violent death and his extreme anti-establishment state of mind, the evidence in this trial will show that there was a further motive for these murders." By his closing argument, he calls it the main and principle one ! You said Kreneinkle said it. [Strike 3! A good example is that Mike McGann interview of Leslie that CieloDrive.com put up. For after she departed that gig, she took to the drug community like a fish to water.Florida changed her? But if anyone has known for the last 47 years, they ain't been talking. The three were instructed to kill an actor that once picked Kasabian up hitchhiking. As Linda heard people screaming for their lives, she ran to the main house. He wants midnight. And some members of the killer's families such as Leslie's dad or one of Tex's siblings might have lived for years haunted by what someone they loved was capable of doing.My original point in the above post was just to say that old cliche of being impossible to judge a person or situation unless you walk a mile in their shoes. Linda married Robert Peasley when she was only sixteen-years-old. But Linda was left to her own devices and ended up pretty much where she had been heading long before July 4th, '69. I wonder if that cabinet they found Manson in was more importantyou know, you had to go through a wardrobe to get there. Very Well Saidand again. She said on that tape she wasn't afraid of getting busted because what she did was right and had to be done. Of course, I never thought she was an innocent flower child, like VB made her out to be, but he needed her as a witness. Her Other Children Bob Kasabian The perfect storm of just the wrong type of personalities- mixed in with just the wrong type of older influence who made their dark desires ok to live out. All they knew is that she was a look out and wasn't asked. When Patti Tate asks Good why her sister had to die. But in saying that, he'd never wanted Susan in the first place {"we don't give that gal anything !"}. The reporters ? About what time did you arrive at the place?A (by Kasabian). So if I appear to be defending her or anyone else that is generally presented as unsavoury, it's because I think there should be a balance to anyone spoken about.Even Charles Watson. Her most interesting revelation on it came actually during the Watson trial, when HS is not emphasized the way it was in the TLB trial. Did Bugliosi actually use any scenario that did not come from someone else ? Remember, she too was indicted following the Grand Jury. AND the Donald Trump (avoiding the Vietnam WAR) issue is the perfect subject to begin the discussion.IT should lead us directly to LBJ (a loving father to HIS children and a Natural Born KILLER to many of us). Might be a good post though. No screaming for it to stop, etcThat would possibly be because at the time Kasabian asked for it to be stopped, Pat was inside struggling with Folger or chasing her through Tate's bedroom out to the pool. She chose to be the way she was and then she eventually became the same kind of parent that Diane and Ruth had.So Sad. It doesn't really matter. But to be fair, there are quite a few times throughout the original trial where stuff from Family members appears to be translated from Japanese into Russian into French into Balilese into English ! St Circumstance saidThat's the point lol. PS: according to her cross examination at the Watson trial she was also arrested in Haight-Ashbury in 1967. I personally think if you wrote the HS motive out of this Manson ends up exactly where he is. Manson Mythos saidThe problem is Grim, Bugliosi painted a portrait of her as being different. It was mentioned but the actual 'only two who had one' argument to explain why Kasabian was sent was made at the Watson trial. She is a good person, who became involved with the wrong people. With a father like Dean who was hitting on girls his teenage daughter hung out with, and did drugs with his own underage kid, or Diane Lake whose parents live a similar lifestyle and literally give her their permission to run around with any group of older people she wants- I do feel sympathy. I get why people get pissy over Deb Tate and Bugs. She seems to have done the exact opposite of Linda with her life- which just goes to show you, even in the worst of circumstances- people can make their own fate. You can barely hear the dialogue and the transcript is full of "(Unintelligible)" and there are things she actually says that are not written in the transcript. That's 3 times in a week. You are correct. The mission, ladies and gentlemen, the mission of these defendants on both nights, was murder. Low level of intelligence: Blanket judging others as having a low level of intelligence because they don't agree with you on your low intellect, racist ideas.Manson Mythos, Obama is:Community organizerAttorneyConstitutional law professorState SenatorUS SenatorPOTUSNobel LaureateManson Mythos:Angry racist moron. are with us in spirit if not in direct alliance. Like any human story, it's the fusion of darkness and light and all those paradoxes and nuances that have kept it so gripping for so long. Linda married again, this time to a hippie named Robert Kasabian. Mine is that Linda left her child with a group of people she knew were capable of murder to save her own ass. (click for details). Reportedly given up for adoption (Although she kept her other children from her husband). These savage murders were not committed to effectuate a robbery. She was initially shocked that they'd killed people for money. Over time, she has been depicted by numerous actresses in different movies. That's not the way I use it at all. Not because I'm being argumentative {after all, I am the current holder of the Consensusinidem award of the most pedantic know it all on the TLB blogs } but because I'm curious.Her background should have had a greater impact Well, during the 11 days she was grilled by the defence, we learn a lot of stuff about Linda Kasabian. Early Life. It doesn't need to be personal. In March of 1968, Linda and Bob had their first child, Tanya. And then there are universal "changes" in "perceptions" that take place over extended time. var part1 = "matt"; Of course he knew from the start the jury would question this. She was once a member of Charles Manson's Family. Hippiedom often talked a good game and tried to build a weighty paradise on a foundation so shallow and flimsy that it cracked under the weight of reality. Her association with substance abusers was still the same. That was about all we had" speaks volumes, not to mention his thought at the end of '69 that Manson could well be acquitted and his feeling that it could turn out to be better for Linda to be tried & acquitted than testify against the Family.there are occasions too numerous to count in the Tate-LaBianca trial where he 'leads' his key witness to the answer he wantsTrue, but it's an answer that he wants already knowing that answer. I try to do that. (One) - $5 bill; serial #J35728714.3. But the people who count are the ones who did the crime. "Furthermore, to varying degrees the women believed in their cause. She worked as a cook and returned to Los Angeles a number of times to testify against Tex Watson and Leslie Van Houten in their separate trials. How many of us became murderers or aided and abetted murder? She mentioned to the Grand Jury that there were to be 2 death squads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE8_N-eBm_4Bill Clinton in London during 'Nam was a CIA plant who spied on the Anti-war protesters. Strike Two! I still thought I read something somewhere that Krenwinkel said it at a parole hearing or something. George Stimson reckons it was because she owed him, after Charlie had protected her from her husband and Charles Melton when they came to get their $5000 back. So I suspect that IF the TATE / LaBianca massacre took place today, they would be filling the ambulances with cops who got nauseated and pass-out. There were a number of details like this that came out, even worse ones during the Watson trial. Manson Mythos saidKrenwinkel never said the motive was Helter SkelterImportant and true.However to dismiss her writing of "Healter skelter" in blood at a murder scene when she'd been told to leave a sign {the night before} ~"you girls know what to write"~ is bias on a grand scale.She herself could not explain, during the penalty phase debacle, why she had written those words. You can correct me on that one. I don't care if it's ten seconds, ten minutes or an hour. Many people came into the family and many left. But so much was made of that in the aftermath of her 2009 revelation by those that thought they'd found Linda's smoking gun, that the facts were not examined and as a result, what is in fact a rather damp squib is felt by some to be the tip of the iceberg of Kasabianesque deception.During her time on the stand, lots of really interesting, but essentially unimportant stuff was brought out by the defence lawyers, Fitzgerald & Kanarek in particular. Fresh meat! Over here in England, working as a care assistant in a home for the elderly is not really seen as particularly caring work much of the time, it's often seen as a job anyone can do that wants to earn definite {low} money and the overwhelming majority of care workers I've known have not been native to these shores. But kids were revered in the Family which made Tonya safer. Always was. Later, Robert Kasabian contacted Linda and invited her to meet him in Los Angeles. I think goofy's comments about 'being at war' and 'casualties of war' are interesting. You are correct, alone it is meaningless. WOW! It Gets Charlie off the hookWhile getting Charlie off the hook may be paramount for "Charlie supporters" I've found piles more people who are not Charlie supporters, indeed, people who can't stand him or that think he's a shitbag and are quite happy for him to remain in or die in jail, that believe that HS is wrong.In fact, far more people think it's wrong than do, in my on line experience. I'll stop now. The two traveled the country, enjoying the hippie lifestyle from commune to commune. According to cielodrive.com, Linda and Robert lived together for three months, however, they divorced when she was 17 years old. I know that "the human side" is used to denote the lean towards goodness, softness, something of redeeming value. She was in search of love, freedom and God. Dreath saidI think what might have happened with Atkins instead of Kasabian is you might not be talking as much about Helter Skelter as a motivePossibly. That's why anything said after a leading question should be tossed in the waste bin. One defense attorney after the next, tried unsuccessfully to punch holes through her testimony. Of course that's his job. It was dark for 4 or 5 hours, after it had been dark.Q. The question is why would Atkins leave Sharon, alive and alone, in the house to take this little stroll? Sorry, St. but there is nothing in that video where Krenwinkel talks about HS. Those who became 18 before 1980. [Off course he goes adding a third objection. But none of us can say what Tex's life might have been if he had stayed in Texas instead of going out to trippin Cal and soaked his brain in bella donna. Grim, I have to disagree with you a bit. Her contentious relationship with her stepfather eventually led to her dropping out of her high school and running away from her home. The short youtube is anecdotal but a number of photos show troops of the 7th Cav in the battle of I-Drang valley. I should have found a way and not gone over the fence and run down the hill. Better yet how about asking Dr. Galloway? Catch 22s abound.If Linda did in fact have a valid driver's license there is no reason why it would be rejected when she went to see Bobby Beausoleil. In a sense, Helter Skelter and Susan Atkins developed as parallel lines during the investigation. When he then asks "do you mean 3 a.m. or midnight" he's leading the witness. In his testimony Clem part corroborated Linda's account and Susan part did to both Richard Caballero and the Grand jury and then later when she was writing her books.and yet, when one looks at where that apartment was, it seems like another kill two birds with one stone job. St Circumstance saidBut not Linda. On the following day, Linda Kasabian once again drove a carload of killers around Los Angeles, finally dropping off Tex, Katie, and Leslie at the Labianca residence. That gives it more weight than retrospective opinions which sometimes is a good thing, but sometimes is not as in what LVH was ultimately charged with. Maybe the pity you have for Linda- who walked away free (That She blew it is her own fault)- would be better served to the people affected by what she helped do??? ORWHUT: Very perceptive. So many people make so many arguments about how unfair life has been to them. She was last reported to be living with Tanya in Washington State. When this second marriage hit the rocks, Linda. That, of course, rather obviously is directed at Charles Manson. I do not think that Charles Manson masterminded or ordered the Tate-LaBianca murders. I am unclear what you mean by the 'got in Parent's car' issue. Anyone?Or..to paraphrase others: Life is going to knock you on your ass from time to time. It's not a fair or valuable trait to have.we are trained to disregard the Parry Mason notion of courtrooms: someone actually out and out lying on the witness standThat makes good sense and allows for nuances. Bill Kurtis can make it sound like the best name ever. But is like a badge of honor to people to refuse to give H.S any weight at allAnd it just seems strange to me that nobody is willing to consider it at all, as even a possibility, when all of the actual killers themselves have repeated the validation that it was for over 40 years with the exact same stories, and memories.you can hear the shame, embarrassment, and humiliation in the voice of a sobered up- middle aged Leslie Van Houten as she tries to explain H/S and the "Hole in the Desert" to her parole boards. When he meets up with or has contact with Pat, she waives extradition, even though she's told Claude Brown she's scared of Manson finding & killing her. A young Linda, as per her friends, neighbours and teachers, was intelligent, kind and shy but starry-eyed romantic. Before Tate-LaBianca She attended Milford High School in Milford, New Hampshire in 1964 and 1965. fn. It can't be HS because that makes Charlie responsible. I did not mean to offend and apoligise if I didYou didn't offend at all.I'll stop now. Even if she was alone for as long as 2 or 3 minutes, a pregnant, tied, tired, scared {described by Atkins as "going out of her mind"} Sharon wasn't The Fugitive on TV who would take the first possible opportunity to effect escape.From the confusion that all of the perps have spoken of that night, what I've gleaned is that we have all the details of what happened at Cielo but the order of events has never been clear after Jay was shot. Stuff that made her look like everything from a slag to a thief to a patient suffering from some form of mental illness to an unfit Mum to a junkie stealing from her Dad. It should also lead us directly to Charles Manson (a loving father to HIS Family and a Natural Born KILLER to many others.Like no other time in History, WE are discovering new facts concerning just what makes the Human Brain tick and hopefully it won't be much longer until WE finally understand exactly why human beings do the "terrible" things THEY do.AND of course, that understanding will eventually lead to a sense of awareness in humans paralleled in all of history. What other ID would she have used? What if she wouldn't have testified? At least ONE Black man personally died in the jungles of Vietnam so HE could get a FREE Blow-Job. His closing argument, like the closing argument of any attorney, is just that 'argument'. ?Hmmmmm..perhaps I just tend to read through different lenses at times St, but my abiding memories of the Bugliosi~Kasabian makeover are of Vincey describing her and her testimony as "frank and repulsively truthful" and telling Laurence Merrick that he would have gone for a 2nd degree murder charge against her. Millie McCormack. Some folk are just simply born under a bad sign, cursed with to much anger, desperation and bad judgement in their DNA. Susan started off saying it, but in a roundabout way {the crime to shock the world and now HS could begin} but from the penalty phase onwards has denied it. It was at night and I had no knowledge of what was happening until we actually got there." How did Linda's teachers report on her behavior? document.write(part3 + ''); "Journey into Darkness" is a good start. See the events in life of Linda Kasabian in Chronological Order, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCNtPU0K_oo, https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/linda-kasabian-11099.php. Linda purposely brought Sadie and Clem to the wrong door, and the mission was aborted. Police investigation ? HS crawled in 4th out of 6.Personally, I suspect that the ease and commonality with which Helter skelter is dismissed reflects a discomfort with the notion of God communicating, religion and the spiritual realm being taken seriously. He asks her again and she reaffirms the timeframe. Because the media and Bernie told me so. She was one of the earliest to actually begin the process of putting flesh on Skelter's bones. Here is a fact: Krenwinkel never said the motive was Helter Skelter. She down plays her Boston arrest by saying she was present where narcotics were present (technically correct) but wouldn't it have been fun to have a few more details for the jury: a fed/state narcotics raid involving 20k worth of LSD? Linda Kasabian thought they were on another burglary attempt; however, she soon saw Charles Watson shoot and kill a teenager, Steven Parent, who had come to meet the housekeeper. I can give you a few: By 1974 31% of adolescents with divorced parents dropped out of high school, 33% of adolescent girls whose parents divorced became teen mothers 11% of boys who came from divorced families ended up spending time in prison before the age of 32. 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